People's Top 18: Fox Run

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People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby thurman » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:05 am

Group 3 of the GKL People's Top 18 goes off today. Here's your chance to determine the best courses in the state! Next up...

Fore please, Fox Run at Courses of Kenton County in Independence, KY.

If you've played it, you can rate it. Please use the following categories and rate on a scale of 1-5, as below (it's a tough scale, 3 is a pretty good score):

1 - Poor
2 - Okay
3 - Solid
4 - Very good
5 - Superb

Aesthetics – Is it scenic? Does the course “fit” its natural surroundings? Are the views unobstructed? Points off here for homes or buildings or power lines encroaching on the course, or other eyesores.

Ambience – Does the course feel “special”? Is it quiet? Is it a friendly, pleasant, or unique place to play in terms of atmosphere? Does it have intangibles that make you want to return? Points off here for loud highways, crappy customer service, pissy locals, and other things that negatively impact a course’s atmosphere.

Conditioning – Are the greens smooth? Do they run at the right speed? Are the fairways full? Does it play fast? Are the bunkers maintained? Points off here for slow or bumpy greens, dead spots in fairways, neglect, and unplayable bunkers.

Use of property – Does the course use its land well? Do natural slopes provide interest on shots? Are the course’s natural features used (water, trees, terrain, etc)? Does it drain well? Points off here for holes that ran out of room, constant drainage issues, unplayable slopes, wasted or misplaced features.

Risk/reward – Does the course give you opportunities to take a risk for some potential gain over the player who doesn’t take the same risk? Does the course extract a penalty if you fail? Does it make you want to hit dangerous shots? Points off here for forced conservative plays, cakewalk short par 4s and 5s with little danger.

Test of the full game – Can different types of players be successful? Does the course reward accuracy as much as it rewards distance? Is touch around greens as important as hitting strong full shots? Is putting as important as driving? Points off here for courses over-reliant on length, holes that don’t give short hitters a chance to put the ball in play, courses with interest tee to green but flat dull greens, etc.

Design variation – Is there a good mixture of short, medium, and long par 4s? Are the par 5s unique? Do you hit different clubs on the par 3s? Are there uphill and downhill holes? Are there doglegs left and right? Are different challenges present from one hole to the next? Points off here for repetitive shots, a ton of 380 yard par 4s, etc (note: It’s okay for a course to be cohesive. It’s ok if a course is “old school,” “wooded,” or “links style.” It just needs to present unique challenges throughout).

Memorability – Pretty simple: Do you remember it after you play it? Are there shots you replay in your head and think about before your next round? Do holes stand out for the right reasons? Points off here for forgettable holes or memorably bad holes.
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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby A-Dub » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:43 pm

DNP. Someone let me know if you go sometime.
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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby wilma » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:41 pm

4,3,3,4,3,3,4,4 = 28

Definitely a Top 18 for me. Tough as nails but quite fun. Loved what everyone else hated [OF COURSE!], #18, crazy hard.

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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby LordofthePings » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:20 am

Played it in a scramble years ago. Can't really remember anything other than being chastised for having the right two tires slightly off of the cart path when it was a 'cart path only' day.
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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby A-Dub » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:39 pm

That brings up a good point I've wondered for years. Why do people pull two wheels off to one side of the cart path when they park up by the green? You see tons of people do it and I don't understand why.
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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby LordofthePings » Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:25 pm

A-Dub wrote:That brings up a good point I've wondered for years. Why do people pull two wheels off to one side of the cart path when they park up by the green? You see tons of people do it and I don't understand why.


We driving to our approach shot, nowhere near a green or tee. We stopped for our ball, and to let the cart behind us pass by. We pulled off slightly to let them pass and left the cart as it was.....and got a good a## chewing for it. So I guess ambiance wouldn't get a high rating from me.
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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby moe » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:08 pm

3, 3, 4, 4, 3, 3, 4, 4 = 28

The last hole makes it memorial, but not in a good way!

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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby foreleft » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:20 pm

A-Dub wrote:That brings up a good point I've wondered for years. Why do people pull two wheels off to one side of the cart path when they park up by the green? You see tons of people do it and I don't understand why.


IDK. Ron and I called it a bozo factor and I still laugh whenever I see it. And I see it done all the time. I can understand if there is someone coming up behind you but you should still pull back onto the path after they pass. What is so funny is that people do it all the time with little chance of someone coming and passing. It is just habit. If someone needs to pass you, let them go off the path. It is why many courses build curbs. You see those dead spots around the green areas all the time where carts park with two tire off the path. Its funny but gets on my nerve at the same time.
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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby foreleft » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:35 pm

This is the only course in this foursome that I have played. Played it four times but it has been two years. I love it. Great course and great challenge from the back tees. Last hole is pretty goofy but I have come to like it. Lots of risk/reward.

Aesthetics - 5 Very nice, very secluded. Like 15 minutes between tee times. Might be one of top in this category

Ambience - 4 Close to a five. The are a little bossy on this course. Otherwise is scores well

Conditioning - 3 I hate to give it that low of a score. Probably not fair. I have seen it at extremes. Usually in great shape but does not hold up too well in high heat.

Use of property - 3 If it were not for #18 it would be a 5

Risk/Reward - 5 All over the place

Test of Full game - 4 It is a great test but I have always played the back tees and they have many long par 4s

Design Variation - 4 Like I said above. Great design and great test of golf

Memorability - 4 Leaves you with a bad taste after #18 but you will remember your round because your game will be put to the test.

Clear top ten in my list
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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby cesmal » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:55 pm

4,4,4,4,5,4,4,4 - 33

Very unique and well-conditioned course. The long ride over to #1 is memorable and once you get over there, you feel like you are about to have a memorable golf experience and the course definitely delivers that. It has rarely been crowded when we have played it. Once saw a red fox rolling around in the fairway below us (a par four with an elevated tee, dogleg left - don't remember the hole # ), playing with a guy who worked on the staff. He had never seen that. 18 is a little whacky, but it's a challenge. A must play when you are in the Northern KY area. Top ten in my opinion as well.
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Re: People's Top 18: Fox Run

Postby redbirds69 » Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:01 am

Aesthetics-4
Ambience-4
Conditioning-3
Use of Property-4
Risk/Reward-4
Full Game-4
Design-4
Memorability-3

Total=30

#18 is an absolutely awful hole.
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