People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

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People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby thurman » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:25 pm

Group 5 of the GKL People's Top 18 goes off today. Here's your chance to determine the best courses in the state! Next up...

Fore please, Hidden Cove Golf Course in Olive Hill, KY.

If you've played it, you can rate it. Please use the following categories and rate on a scale of 1-5, as below (it's a tough scale, 3 is a pretty good score):

1 - Poor
2 - Okay
3 - Solid
4 - Very good
5 - Superb

Aesthetics – Is it scenic? Does the course “fit” its natural surroundings? Are the views unobstructed? Points off here for homes or buildings or power lines encroaching on the course, or other eyesores.

Ambience – Does the course feel “special”? Is it quiet? Is it a friendly, pleasant, or unique place to play in terms of atmosphere? Does it have intangibles that make you want to return? Points off here for loud highways, crappy customer service, pissy locals, and other things that negatively impact a course’s atmosphere.

Conditioning – Are the greens smooth? Do they run at the right speed? Are the fairways full? Does it play fast? Are the bunkers maintained? Points off here for slow or bumpy greens, dead spots in fairways, neglect, and unplayable bunkers.

Use of property – Does the course use its land well? Do natural slopes provide interest on shots? Are the course’s natural features used (water, trees, terrain, etc)? Does it drain well? Points off here for holes that ran out of room, constant drainage issues, unplayable slopes, wasted or misplaced features.

Risk/reward – Does the course give you opportunities to take a risk for some potential gain over the player who doesn’t take the same risk? Does the course extract a penalty if you fail? Does it make you want to hit dangerous shots? Points off here for forced conservative plays, cakewalk short par 4s and 5s with little danger.

Test of the full game – Can different types of players be successful? Does the course reward accuracy as much as it rewards distance? Is touch around greens as important as hitting strong full shots? Is putting as important as driving? Points off here for courses over-reliant on length, holes that don’t give short hitters a chance to put the ball in play, courses with interest tee to green but flat dull greens, etc.

Design variation – Is there a good mixture of short, medium, and long par 4s? Are the par 5s unique? Do you hit different clubs on the par 3s? Are there uphill and downhill holes? Are there doglegs left and right? Are different challenges present from one hole to the next? Points off here for repetitive shots, a ton of 380 yard par 4s, etc (note: It’s okay for a course to be cohesive. It’s ok if a course is “old school,” “wooded,” or “links style.” It just needs to present unique challenges throughout).

Memorability – Pretty simple: Do you remember it after you play it? Are there shots you replay in your head and think about before your next round? Do holes stand out for the right reasons? Points off here for forgettable holes or memorably bad holes.
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby kygolf99 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:01 pm

Aesthetics-5
Ambience-3
Conditioning-4
Use of Property-4
Risk/Reward-4
Full Game-3
Design-4
Memorability-3

Total=30
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby moe » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:44 pm

5, 4, 3, 4, 4, 5, 4, 5= 34

Perhaps my favorite course in Kentucky.
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby wilma » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:23 pm

5,5,5,4,4,3,4,4 = 34

Top 5, certainly a destination course. Combined with ER and Stonecrest, what a weekend! This is why Kentucky is such a great place to be a golfer.

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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby Docugs » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:00 pm

aesthetics -5
Ambience - 4
Condition -4
use of property -4
Risk reward -3
Test of game 3
design variation 4
Memorable 5

My fav. of the state courses.
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby A-Dub » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:38 pm

Aesthetics-5
Ambience-3
Conditioning-4
Use of Property-4
Risk/Reward-4
Full Game-3
Design-4
Memorability-3

Total=30

For the record, I copied and pasted kygolf99's rankings. Really good course, I'm not as high as some others on it.
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby JP » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:40 pm

My favorite public in the state! Let's get to it...

Aesthetics-4. This place is truly beautiful. The only quibbles might be the road on 16 and 8 and that's a minor complaint. It's not spectacular a la Eagle Ridge but it is truly a gorgeous golf course.

Ambience-5. This place just feels special from the first tee shot to the 18th green. Nice separation of the holes and it usually just feels like you are alone on the golf course although they have been doing brisk business the times that I have played weekday and weekends.

Conditioning-4. No complaints here what so ever. A pleasure to play always.

Use of Property-4. I'm giving it a 4 instead of 5 for one reason. #10. I hate that hole. I'm not sure what could have been done there but it just is not an enjoyable hole to play in the least. 8 is really tough and yet I don't mind it but 10 just is too steep and the green area too penal for my game and I suspect others. OTOH, my favorite par 4 anywhere (#2) is here so I guess I shouldn't complain.

Risk/Reward-3. Solid although for me there isn't really much that comes into play other than thinking about landing areas. I don't have the length to contend with these par 5s.

Full Game-5. I can't think of a shot you don't use. I play every club in the bag here. Good variety on the par 3s and you must putt well to take any advantage of good approaches that you may hit.

Design Variation-5. Can't think of anything different that the Ault's could have done with this property. All of the holes are different and they really used the lay of the land to create a memorable experience for all. Probably the best set of par 5s I have seen anywhere.

Memorability-5. It's the course I most want to play each year and the one I tell everyone about. The first time I went, I stayed to play 36 because I liked it so well and I wanted to go back the very next day. I love this place!
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby foreleft » Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:08 pm

Aesthetics-5 Just great layout and design job. Could be the best in this category.
Ambience-5 Solid, just solid
Conditioning-4 Daddy like
Use of Property-3 #10 is a bum, not that impressed with some of the green areas. Then there are like 3 holes that almost drivable
Risk/Reward-4 There are some good ones, but then there are some that just seem to say get it up by that green.
Full Game-4 Lots of different shots. Don't like the short holes, or #10 but it is a good test
Design-4 Very solid. Green areas could have been better and risk areas could have been riskier.
Memorability-5 Just too cool. And the finishing hole is the icing on the cake.

Total=34

Got to do at least one golf trip there this year. I'm thinking middle of June.
Not raking a bunker.
Littering is wrong too.
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby JP » Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:36 pm

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks that #10 is a poor hole.
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby LordofthePings » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:55 pm

DNP :cry:
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby cesmal » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:38 pm

Only played once, several years ago. Cannot rate specifically, but I think it would be in my top ten.
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby redbirds69 » Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:55 am

Aesthetics-5
Ambience-2
Conditioning-4
Use of Property-4
Risk/Reward-4
Full Game-3
Design-4
Memorability-3

Total=29
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Re: People's Top 18: Hidden Cove

Postby gregorie » Thu May 24, 2012 10:53 am

Played Hidden Cove for the 5th time on May 26. The rough at this course is some of the worst I have played anywhere in several years. They are slowly losing fairway on right side of Hole 3. Get out and play this soon because the rough is going to get worse with the heat.

This layout has always been very strong. The conditions of bunkers, greens, and tees are in very good shape. Shot 81.

I remember the early days when this place was manicured like the US Open.
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